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Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Ianki - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 02:21 PM)chickadee link Wrote: Ambassador = Broken
(05-22-2009, 02:32 PM)Wedge link Wrote: Yeah update is full of bugs. Will be waiting a bit I think. Alex just told me he can do the spy taunt kill while fully cloaked. Also it will instant kill a sentry. LULULULULULLULULULULULUL.
jesus christ. First of all, it's a straight up upgrade from the start, and now the bullets are magical?
Second, the spy taunt kills while fully cloaked? WTF. with the cloaked forever standing still bull shit, this'll be messy.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Wedge - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 03:03 PM)Ianki link Wrote: [quote author=chickadee link=topic=2877.msg85200#msg85200 date=1243020080]
Ambassador = Broken
(05-22-2009, 02:32 PM)Wedge link Wrote: Yeah update is full of bugs. Will be waiting a bit I think. Alex just told me he can do the spy taunt kill while fully cloaked. Also it will instant kill a sentry. LULULULULULLULULULULULUL.
jesus christ. First of all, it's a straight up upgrade from the start, and now the bullets are magical?
Second, the spy taunt kills while fully cloaked? WTF. with the cloaked forever standing still bull shit, this'll be messy.
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The gun actually isn't a straight upgrade if it were working right, it does less damage for non headshots (and fires slightly slower I guess, but that's barely noticeable). It probably shouldn't be as crazy accurate as it is (possibly because of the collision bug stuff), that's probably the biggest problem with it. Because the revolver was already super fucking powerful, people are just realizing it moreso because of this thing making it easier to hit now.Â
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - backfire - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 02:21 PM)chickadee link Wrote: Ambassador = BrokenWow, I was wondering why it seemed way to easy to hit scouts with that thing. How did this even pass through valve?
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Radio Raheem - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 03:03 PM)Ianki link Wrote: [quote author=chickadee link=topic=2877.msg85200#msg85200 date=1243020080]
Ambassador = Broken
(05-22-2009, 02:32 PM)Wedge link Wrote: Yeah update is full of bugs. Will be waiting a bit I think. Alex just told me he can do the spy taunt kill while fully cloaked. Also it will instant kill a sentry. LULULULULULLULULULULULUL.
jesus christ. First of all, it's a straight up upgrade from the start, and now the bullets are magical?
Second, the spy taunt kills while fully cloaked? WTF. with the cloaked forever standing still bull shit, this'll be messy.
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actually it looks like a giant downgrade. 3 mini crits to kill a medic? the regular revolver can 3shot a medic anyway it doesnt take headshots
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - copulatingduck - 05-22-2009
apparently crab spy is some special taunt or something like that :|
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Benito Mussolini - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 02:21 PM)chickadee link Wrote: Ambassador = Broken
Video is wrong in so many ways.
Crouching in TF2 does not increase accuacy.
Headshots with ambassador only happen on first shot, and do full crits, not "mini-crits".
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - KarthXLR - 05-22-2009
OMG DO WANT
Other Awesome stuff.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Badgerman of DOOM - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 04:34 PM)Benito Mussolini link Wrote: [quote author=chickadee link=topic=2877.msg85200#msg85200 date=1243020080]
Ambassador = Broken
Video is wrong in so many ways.
Crouching in TF2 does not increase accuacy.
Headshots with ambassador only happen on first shot, and do full crits, not "mini-crits".
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No, it does minikrits. Takes either 3 head or bodyshots to kill off a 125 health class.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Benito Mussolini - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 10:52 PM)Ensign Epic link Wrote: [quote author=Benito Mussolini link=topic=2877.msg85225#msg85225 date=1243028070]
[quote author=chickadee link=topic=2877.msg85200#msg85200 date=1243020080]
Ambassador = Broken
Video is wrong in so many ways.
Crouching in TF2 does not increase accuacy.
Headshots with ambassador only happen on first shot, and do full crits, not "mini-crits".
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No, it does minikrits. Takes either 3 head or bodyshots to kill off a 125 health class.
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Well I may be wrong... I go with what I heard, because ALL I CAN F***ING UNLOCK IS THE STUPID FLARE GUN.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Badgerman of DOOM - 05-22-2009
Trust me mang. I've seen it happen. It's an utter shit weapon now that it's fixed. Valve is gonna have to majorly rebalance it, because it is far inferior to the revolver.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - copulatingduck - 05-22-2009
I will probably regret linking this later once everyone starts trying to do it but:
http://captainmorgan.mit.edu/tf2/introducing%20the%20crabspy.avi
It's a "rare" disgues-kit taunt that comes up with spy
*rare meaning I don't know how to reliably reproduce it, so from what I can tell it is random
edit: also this - http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=869937
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Wedge - 05-23-2009
(05-22-2009, 11:34 PM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: I will probably regret linking this later once everyone starts trying to do it but:
http://captainmorgan.mit.edu/tf2/introducing%20the%20crabspy.avi
It's a "rare" disgues-kit taunt that comes up with spy
*rare meaning I don't know how to reliably reproduce it, so from what I can tell it is random
edit: also this - http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=869937
It's not really that "rare" it happens probably 1/3 times or so. We did it a bunch already.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - copulatingduck - 05-23-2009
It took me 12 tries to get it in a server with a bot so :|
as stupidly random as these item drops are
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - shoopfox - 05-23-2009
The Ambassador is total shit now. A headshot does about the same damage as a plain ol' revolver bodyshot. WTF is the point of it?
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Maxon - 05-23-2009
I'm thinking the Ambassador must be broken if it's not doing more damage.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - KarthXLR - 05-23-2009
Eh, all I really want is the dead ringer.
They'll probably give a small buff to the ambassador.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - copulatingduck - 05-23-2009
(05-23-2009, 01:04 AM)Señor Pinchy link Wrote: The Ambassador is total shit now. A headshot does about the same damage as a plain ol' revolver bodyshot. WTF is the point of it?
Point Blank: Regular Revolver ~60dmg
60 base * (0.85 [damage reduction] ) * (1.35 [mini-crit boost] ) ~ 69dmg
Long Range: Regular Revolver ~60dmg
(one end of ctf_bball to the other): Regular Revolver ~20dmg
Ambassador still does 69dmg b/c there's no dmg falloff for minicrits or regular crits
It was pretty much only meant for sniping as the 15% damage dropoff and the 20% speed reduction mean you get raped medium/close range :[
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Loqutus - 05-23-2009
(05-23-2009, 03:22 AM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: [quote author=Señor Pinchy link=topic=2877.msg85328#msg85328 date=1243058689]
The Ambassador is total shit now. A headshot does about the same damage as a plain ol' revolver bodyshot. WTF is the point of it?
Point Blank: Regular Revolver ~60dmg
60 base * (0.85 [damage reduction] ) * (1.35 [mini-crit boost] ) ~ 69dmg
Long Range: Regular Revolver ~60dmg
(one end of ctf_bball to the other): Regular Revolver ~20dmg
Ambassador still does 69dmg b/c there's no dmg falloff for minicrits or regular crits
It was pretty much only meant for sniping as the 15% damage dropoff and the 20% speed reduction mean you get raped medium/close range :[
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That's how it SHOULD work. Every field test I've done shows 46 damage for every headshot, every time, regardless of distance.
Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Kor - 05-23-2009
I just want to point out, for all the bitching about Valve attempting to turn TF2 into a MMO, you guys are nerd-raging just like the average WoW player.
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Re: JAMES'S SPY UPDATE MEGATHREAD - Squishy3 - 05-23-2009
(05-23-2009, 07:57 AM)Kor link Wrote: I just want to point out, for all the bitching about Valve attempting to turn TF2 into a MMO, you guys are nerd-raging just like the average WoW player.It's happened every update.
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Medic update: Blutsauger is overpowered! Pyro update: Backburner is overpowered!! *Valve removes health boost* J-Master: BACKBURNER IS FUCKING WORTHLESS Heavy: Natascha sucks, but has cool sound effects. Crit Sandvich. KGB is lulzy. Sniper/Spy: most bitching ever yet